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Post by Lomelindo on Oct 26, 2005 20:57:06 GMT -5
well thats how memories come out...in a rush and very tangled....it would be nice if they came in all ordered and nice.... I think that acceptance and letting go of pain and attachments is needed in the case of Boromir. Meditation involving concentrating on the breath and letting go, being mindful of the body, keeping it relaxed and gently returning your attention to the breath if you keep getting sucked back into thoughts....This may help...It has helped me before and is not as easy as it sounds May Vaire and Irmo aid you in your efforts Artanaro
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Post by Brandybuck on Oct 26, 2005 22:01:59 GMT -5
Laurasia, I have to agree with artanaro on this one. Though I am far from perfect in the meditation field, it does help when you are dealing with controlling feelings. Regarding your family..I know your family! You do not need anything from them that they have not already given you. Do not strive for acceptance from one who will only feed on the martyrdom that it would bring her. I think that the best thing you ever did was to seperate yourself. Your relationship with them now is the best that you have had FOR That reason. You being able to have a civilized conversation by phone is a 100 percent turnaround from when you lived amongst them. You need nothing more..and they do not have to give anything more. I think that the relationship betwen you all has acheived its balance..this is from an outsiders view, which is much more clearer than being on the inside. You are now aquaintances who send letters, pictures, and an occasional phone call. I believe that is as close to "acceptance" as you are meant to be. If you are looking only at acceptance, just remember that your sister does not hold a candle to you..even in your parents eyes (which they have admitted). That is my feelings on that subject. Both of you know who I was in my past life (Third Age of Middle-earth). I am starting to remember more. I remember walking in a forest for what seems like days...I remember wanting to give up hope because my wounds (inner and outer) were slowly destroying me...I remember a Man..I do not know who yet, but I am beginning to remember actual people now, which shows how far I have come. The thing that is staying with me that I cannot get rid of is the feeling and remembrance of the attack that left me gravely injured in mind and body (both of you know what this is). All the meditation is not taking that away. I think it is because it is one of the most poignant memories that I have thus far remembered. So, there are certain things that will stay with us I think...Faramir you are not alone in retaining pain.
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Post by Laurasia on Oct 27, 2005 18:32:00 GMT -5
Hi Brandybuck. Perhaps you are right about the family situation. It's just...I haven't healed, I've moved on I guess you could say...Learned how to fuction more appropriately. But inside I haven't healed, it still hurts so bad. Perhaps I'm wrong in thinking that once I've healed it won't hurt anymore? ~sigh~ I thank you for your very candid, outside perspective though. You have given me a new angle to review all of this with. I know that you remember pain, sweety. I know that is the bulk of what you remember, rather than actual people/events. I can tell, just as you have probably noticed my moods have been rather low or dulled. You know what? We really need to start remembering the good stuff more clearly from after the War of the Ring. LOL! I can remember some of my time afterwards & that's not nearly as hard as what I usually get to remember. Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by Brandybuck on Oct 27, 2005 18:56:08 GMT -5
Way ahead of you. I think that I almost begged my mind to let me dream something good last night...I told you what I remembered about the pub. That was not so bad at all. *winks*
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Post by Laurasia on Nov 2, 2005 0:42:30 GMT -5
Hi guys. Well...update time. And yes, I was able to recall something positive. During my Samhain meditations I was able to get 2 different recollections. The first was fairly quick. It was myself & Boromir when we were much younger (Boromir was probably about 6 or 7 years old). We were running around the city (Minas Tirith) dueling with wooden swords & laughing. Boromir was getting into a bit of trouble because, while dodging one of my swings, he leapt behind one of merchants' stands & knocked a bunch of stuff over. The guy came running out yelling at us & we took off laughing & duelling. We continued up the stairs to the Court of the White Tree. Once we were up there I noticed the silhouette of a woman. I believe that this was our mother, but I can't be positive. The second recollection was one from when I was already a Captain. My men & I had returned home from being away for a while. Again we were in the Court of the White Tree. Anyway, I was laughing & talking with some of my men when I noticed the Kings Hall & knew that I was going to have to report to my father. Immediately my stomach clenched up into a knot. Apparently it was evident in my face because one of my men quickly said, "Don't worry he's not here right now. He's downstairs." "Good," was my flat reply & there was a heavier feeling as the men fell quieter in my uneasiness. Suddenly my best-friend (and one of my mentors) Madril called me over to where he was standing, near the edge of the tower. I walked over to him & he claps my shoulder, indicating for me to look over the edge. I do so & see the laundry-woman washing the dirty clothes from my men & I. Some of the younger ones look up at me & wave with girlish smiles. "See, they're happy to see you home again," he says to me with a chuckle. "Yeah, they get to wash filthy clothes I bet that they're rather content now," I say, but can't help but start laughing when I look in his face. He pats my back & tells me to join him & the rest of the men downstairs drinking, so I go with him feeling better already. The last part of this recollection was simply a quick vision of the men & myself laughing & drinking in a darkened hall-like room. So there you go, the Samhain meditation results. Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by Lomelindo on Nov 2, 2005 1:27:21 GMT -5
nice memories.....
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Post by Brandybuck on Nov 2, 2005 1:36:45 GMT -5
Laurasia, I am very happy that you were able to have some decent memories for a change. As you know (and artanaro) as well, I have progressed in mine. I have only remembered the "significant" events..but today I finally got something nice. I remember being served a tea by the Elves that was so sweet and so delicious that I could not help but smile at the memory. I think I would pass out if I ever found tea that tasted that good in this life. That was strange..my sense of taste usually does not come into my recollections, but I will not complain.
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Post by Laurasia on Nov 2, 2005 16:39:25 GMT -5
Hi Brandybuck. I'm glad that you had an easier recollection as well. As for remembering through taste...It is one of the harder senses to experience reverie through, but people are able to experience it through all of them. I think that I can honestly say I have never experienced the sense of taste during a reverie myself. LOL! Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by Lomelindo on Nov 14, 2005 12:14:07 GMT -5
A few days ago I experienced some flashes of recollection of an ancient time, the Third Age of this world actually. I was in the place that Tolkien names Rivendell or Imladris (though I have this nagging feeling that those names were never used during that time, at least not among the Elves residing therein). I remembered tastes of certain foods, namely breads and teas came through strongly. These tastes were quite otherworldly in comparison to the tastes one can experience today. They were grown by a group of elven women called the daughters/maidens of Yavanna, who sang to and nurtured the plants imbuing them with light if you will. They were skilled at nurturing song and could strengthen and quicken the growth of trees and plants. It was as if the trees and plants sang back in response to the elven singing. I get the sense that this group was composed chiefly of elven women. They could strengthen the effects of herbs through their nurturing methods taught to them by the Valar. This would make teas to be much more potent and healing than the teas grown by other races. (All of this kind of reminds me of the genetic engineering of plants to strengthen specific qualities of the plant....difference is the elven method did not force the plants and was a more harmonious method).. There were many plants and herbs brought from Aman or given as gifts to the elves by certain Maiar.
I have tried to put together all of the flashes I had into a somewhat coherent whole.
Namarie Artanaro
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Post by Laurasia on Nov 14, 2005 14:59:20 GMT -5
Hi Artanaro.
Very interesting. I wish that I could do those things with my herbs. ;D I'm fairly good with herbal working, but I doubt that I can compare to the Elves.
Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by Brandybuck on Nov 15, 2005 14:54:42 GMT -5
LOL..you know what's funny..I do not remember the names Rivendell or Imladris either..I guess that Tolkien had to name it something, eh? He probably either forgot or never heard the true name for most of the places in Middle-earth, because I have felt that some of the names were wrong for other places as well. I do know that Gondor was in fact named Gondor..so maybe that is where the vast knowledge of Tolkien's "remembrances" came from...
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Post by Lomelindo on Dec 2, 2005 11:14:42 GMT -5
The name of Imladris had three parts to the name of which is Dor which means Land in elvish....So it would be Dor....something....something.....I cant remember the rest right now.... I also remember that there were several names used at the time for Imladris but I dont remember Imladris being one of them....This seems to have been either what outsiders called that place, or it was wholly made up by Tolkien... Anyways, I also remember a little about the foundation of Imladris, and Tolkien got his timeline a bit skewed..According to my memory Imladris was built almost 60 or so years prior to the date given in the books....There was something there at the place, as if the Music of the Ainulindale could be heard more clearly in that place....It was what many would now call a power point....Ulmo's power was extremely strong there and Elrond called upon him several times in the course of history in defense of Imladris, so Imladris was founded as both a military haven for the inevitable war against Sauron when he later came for Celebrimbor's rings, and it was a place of great spiritual power.... There is always a bit more to the story than is ever recorded in history....
Namarie Artanaro
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Post by Brandybuck on Dec 2, 2005 18:20:25 GMT -5
I am glad that you are able to sort out these memories artanaro. I know that you have had a block for some time now..so I am very pleased that you are figuring this out.
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Post by Laurasia on Dec 4, 2005 19:29:16 GMT -5
Wow Artanaro. I wish I could have such clear memories of Gondor. ~sigh~ Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by Brandybuck on Dec 4, 2005 22:07:50 GMT -5
Do not fret Laurasia..it will come when you least expect it!!
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