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Post by hadassah on Oct 30, 2007 9:48:36 GMT -5
Did you know about 5,000 babies die everyday due abortion? Right now people who support abortion are trying to pass a bill called the Freedom of Choice Act. In 2000 a bill was passed making partial birth abortion illegal and now with this act not only would it be legal again but abortion clinics would receieve government funds from our tax dollars with no restrictions. It would also make it possible for no more bills to be passed interferring with abortion as well as allow minors to not even have parental consent to get an abortion. [Edited for content ~ Laurasia...I do not feel that such a graphic description, especially of only 1 type of abortion procedure, needs to be present on these boards. We are adults & I am sure that most of us are aware of the different forms of abortion procedures. If not, interested people can look up the differing procedures via the web.]This bill can not be passed if we want there to be any hope for unborn children. And you can help by calling 1-800-942-1974 to add your name to a petition. This petition will be sent to congress and hopefully will prevent this bill from even going into legislation. If it does go into legislation it could be passed. Abortion clincis will be set up to where a young girl could just walk in get an abortion and leave, basically on demand abortions no questions asked. Please call and help these innocent children who are helpless to abortion and need our voices to speak for them. Please click this link and sign the petition against abortion. www.centerformoralclarity.net/FreedomOfChoice.aspx
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Post by Laurasia on Nov 1, 2007 13:55:44 GMT -5
While I do not agree with abortion in most cases (rape victims & health concerns excluded), I also cannot agree with completely abolishing the right for a woman (in certain situations) to have an abortion.
Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by gangleri on Nov 1, 2007 21:22:50 GMT -5
Sorry. I can't sign it. I don't want to get into a political debate. But basically my position is that oftentimes abortion is preferable to bringing a child into the world whose parents can't properly care for and love it. I don't like the idea, but I think it needs to be an option.
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Post by Rowan on Nov 6, 2007 12:27:45 GMT -5
I couldn't anyway because I don't live in America , but I wouldn't as I feel abortion is an individual decision . There are ways and means to commit certain acts regardless of legal status.
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Post by hadassah on Nov 7, 2007 0:32:57 GMT -5
I have been a mother for about 20 yrs and I am now a new grandma. I have been pregnant six times and given birth six times. During those times I have studed pregnancy and even studed the stages of pregnancy. By six weeks a child has a beating heart. Most of the pictures are very clear and plan that a fetius is a person.
I could never harm a child. I believe it is just as wrong to hurt a child in the womb as well as outside the womb. I love children and adore babies. Having a baby is a precious gift. I miss being pregnant and breastfeeding. That season of my life has passed and I am in a new season of being a grandma.
I am glad that my grandson is here. I know that he is a gift from God. My daughter was unmarried when she got pregnant with him. I was not happy that she was an unwed mother but I showed her love and suport though the whole pregnancy and took her to her doctor's apointments. I was excited about being a grandma but was disapointed that she wasn't married. She did get married and they live with me.
And I even got to see the birth of my grandson. He was born on the very same day that my daughter Sarah Michelle passed away on 16 yrs ago. He was three weeks early. I know in my heart this was a sign from God that he was meant to be born. It was no accident that he was born on this date. I lost a child on this date and a child was given back to me on this date.
My grandson lives with me and he feels very much like one of mine even though I didnt give birth to him. I missed having a baby in the home and now there is a baby in the home. If he was aborted I would not be able to share the joy of him in my life. I am glad that my daughter had him. I felt that the timing was off when she firsted told me but I am so glad he is with us. I am pride of my daughter for having him and keeping him and following in my foot steps and breastfeeding him.
When I was three months pregnant with my daugher ( Counting from my wedding date,) I got a sonogram. My daughter Janna was fully developed. I watched her on the sonogram machine. I could see fingers, toes, arms, legs and a beating heart. I could even see her skull. I could even see her moving her jaw. I could even see her eye sockets. She was a human being to me. There are women at this stage of pregnancy that can get an abortion. I really can't understand why anyone would want to harm a baby? I guess it is because they feel it isn't really a person but tissue and blood. But the sonogram showed clearly that she was a person.
I can understand that there are some pregnancies that could be hard to go though. I can understand that being rapped would be one of them. If I was rapped and got pregnant I would chose to have the child. I would even keep the child. But for those who would not want the child, adoptation could be a wonderful gift to someone who can't have children.
Life doesn't promise us that everything will be perfect. My ex is in prison for life. I have been raising five kids all by myself. I probably should have never married him. That was a big mistake but if I didn't my five kids would not be here. I know that if I can hold on to my five children and raise them by myself then anyone can hold on to one child and love that one child if they put there mind to it.
I believe giving birth to a child has to do with how much love you have in your heart for that child and how much you want that child. Are you willing to give life when all odds are against you? My pregnancies were not always easy. With all six of my pregancies I had morning sickness for nine months. I could have very easily said I am tired of this I don't want to go though this but I didn't. Child birth isn't easy either but I went though it and I have five beautiful children to be pride of.
Lets face the facts, must girls who get an abortion just do not want the baby. Most of the time it has nothing to do with heath risks but just that they don't want the child. They played a very adult game breaking the rules and now they are pregant. They started the game but do not want to finish the game of life so they end the game by getting an abortion. It would have been easier to not play the game in the first place or at least use some protection.
I understand in a case of a tubal pregnancy the baby has to be removed or the mother will die. The baby is going to die anyhow so at least save the mother but this is not most cases.
I am sorry that this upsets people but I usually speak what is on my heart pointing out the truth about things. Sometimes the truth hurts and people sometimes choose to be blind even when the truth is shown to them. A picture can speak for itself and show the truth. I encourage everyone to please look up the stages of pregnancy and look at pictures from conception to birth.
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Post by Laurasia on Nov 7, 2007 16:19:53 GMT -5
I have to agree with much of wat you have stated Hadassah, however closing that option for the woman who truly need an abortion would be too detrimental in my opinion. There needs to be stricter regulations yes, but not abolishment.
I agree that adoption is a better option than abortion in most cases, however I could not fault a woman with aborting a pregnancy that is the result of a rape. Having been raped myself I know that I would not be able to carry the pregnancy to term & God save the person that would tell me that I had to do so. I have known a woman that raised a son who was the product of a rape, & I have to admit that I admire her strength - however I also realize that most people would not possess such strength.
Once again, not everyone can do it. However, I do feel that adoption is better in such cases.
I'm sorry but I have to say that was a very poor example of a "hard pregnancy". Morning sickness would definately not be a justifiable reason for an abortion. There are instances when a pregnancy is medically too difficult for the mother & has aboslutely nothing to do with any "lack of love for the baby" on the mothers' part.
I do agree with you that teens (or anyone else) who get pregnant simply by not being moral or careful should not have abortions. They should place the child up for adoption if they truly cannot care for the child in such situations. This is definately the aspect of being against abortions that I support whole-heartedly. The fact of the matter though, is that this is not always the situation. Taking the option away from those that do need to or should be allowed to terminate a pregnancy would be just as wrong as allowing people to simply have them frivolously.
Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by hadassah on Nov 7, 2007 22:46:43 GMT -5
Thank you so much for your reply to my posts.
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