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Post by Brandybuck on Oct 16, 2005 22:52:17 GMT -5
Greetings everyone, I figured that I would start this thread for those of us who feel that it is possible that we could have lived in the time of Middle-earth. I realize that not all people believe that Middle-earth actually existed, but I beg these people to be open-minded to those of us that do. As for me, I have ben working on meditations that could tell me the answers that I am searching for. I had a very vivid dream (in fact a few of them) that was too real to be just a dream. In it, I was wearing Gondor's armor, and fighting alongside other Men...that is all I really have right now, but keep in mind that these battles were very graphic...but we were determined. I will continue to work on this on my own, and I will post any further updates. If anyone else thinks that they could have (or know that) lived in Middle-earth, please post here.
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Post by Lomelindo on Oct 16, 2005 23:07:02 GMT -5
I have one of a very early time which I uncovered with reverie but focusing on the name my girlfriend dreamt of : Olos Nethra. She turned out to be my daughter. Using reverie and meditation I came upon quite a bit of memory which I wrote down..All of it is in a first person format. It took place a short while (in elven reckoning) after what is called in lore the Awakening of the Quendi. I will post it at a later date because it is quite long and I have not the time right now :-) ( most of the material is a description of olos nethra)
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Post by Laurasia on Oct 16, 2005 23:43:17 GMT -5
Hi guys. Very interesting indeed. I'm glad that I'm not the only one! I also have recollections of a life in Gondor. As with my other past-lives (from Greece, Vikings, etc.) I was a male fighter in the army. Some of the rememberances that I have are deeply personal & hard to deal with at times. Discovering this past-life has really been putting a lot of my current life & things that I have experienced into perspective for me. I have been realizing that I am more aliken to this life in Gondor than any of the others that I have recalled since. It's almost as though a skin has been pulled back, or the blinders have been taken off. It leaves me feeling rather vulnerable & uneasy, but I am working to come to terms with it. Its not easy, but...you do what you have to do. ~sigh~ What a perfect thing to say! That just about sums it all up. You do what you have to do. I have to say that I love all of you guys dearly & I hope that you all know this. However, I'm really not comfortable right now with putting a name to the life that I'm remembering. I suppose that I, as well as a good number of the rest of you, am still trying to get used to such an open-minded site. I just don't trust it yet, not with this. Perhaps in time. Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by twilight on Oct 16, 2005 23:51:13 GMT -5
I have absoloutly no past life memories though I have feelings of familiarity when it comes to people and places I have never seen before, and longings to go somewhere, "home?" particularly in dreams. That being said, I don't think it is absurd to have memories of a life in Middle Earth. After all it was supposed to be a mythology of England's prehistory. The world as it was before the "Dominion of Men." Who knows, maybe Tolkien was a reincarnated something from Middle Earth, and just mistook his memories for imagination!
~Aelish~
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Post by Laurasia on Oct 17, 2005 0:14:56 GMT -5
Hi Aelish. What a lovely way of looking at it sweetheart. I have to say, that is a rather interesting, not to mention good, theory. And my hope of not being ridiculed is restored a bit! Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by Lomelindo on Oct 17, 2005 20:43:35 GMT -5
heres the Olos nethra material I was speaking of: An elf of the second generation one of the first elf-children, a wonder among her people. Darkness covered the land, the stars shine brightly above, a spectacle of great wonder and comfort. The Young Dream Child of Visions her sight penetrating the world, unraveling its mystery. Words to describe the world around us abound in her psyche, the result of seeing into the very blueprint of matter. Her life ended tragically and violently, victim of Moringotto's vile treachery and persecution. The birth of Olos Nethra was like the birth of a star among the people of the Tatyar. The crafters of words we are. Expression, language and magic were one in those days. We had an innate magical ability, and the only thing that we needed to learn were the combinations, of the basic knowledge in ways to create, alter, and improve the etheric substructure of Arda to combat the evil of Melkor and his jaded minions though these names and places of dwelling of those discordant ones were unknown to us. She was born at a time when there were not many elven children, yet born. Each infant was bathed in the waters of Kuivienen as we gave thanks to Arda and to the One. Many were our linguistic creations but only one among many came to be spoken by all for it was necessary to agree upon certain words and certain grammatical structures. Time and time again words and structures were changed only to be changed back into the original form but only slightly altered. To be continued..........
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Post by Laurasia on Oct 18, 2005 14:53:06 GMT -5
Hello Artanaro. Hhmmm. Very interesting indeed. So, was this in Middle-Earth? Or is what you are describing Valinor, before the Elves there came to Middle-Earth? That's the only thing that I'm snagged on. I look forward to reading your continuation. My own recollection of the life in Gondor that I mentioned have been flooding over me as of late. I keep getting rushes of very strong & dark emotions that come from nowhere. I have to deliberately remind myself that these emotions are not neccessary now & that they are not the product of my current circumstances. It is very hard at times though. Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by Brandybuck on Oct 18, 2005 15:08:53 GMT -5
Laurasia, You and me both sweetie...as usual mine have been popping up as I slumber. I have been having some dreams that are so vivid, that I do not have to write them down immediately out of fear of losing them. This is the dream that I had last night. I hear the sound of a battle horn in the distance. I am standing on top of the White City, and I am trying to identlfy wher this sound is coming from. Then I see it. Off to the left of me in the far distance is the begining of the tree line. A small force of Gondorians are battling a creature that (from up there) looks like wolves. ( I wonder if they could have been wargs??) I am watching the fight , and our Men are easily victorious. That is all of the dream..but that is only one. artanaro..I was wondering that as well..Valinor or middle-earth? Thank you very much for sharing, and I look forward to reading more.
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Post by Lomelindo on Oct 18, 2005 18:52:12 GMT -5
The time of this story (from what I have been able to discern) is from the discovery of the Quendi by Orome up until the departure to Valinor. In terms of Tolkiens timelines this would be from year 1050 of the Age of the Trees (Awakening) until 1105 of the Age of the Trees (Sundering). So these memories are taking place in Middle Earth definitely.
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Post by Lomelindo on Oct 18, 2005 19:44:29 GMT -5
theres not too much more after this. Despite Orome's efforts some of us were slain though we never knew what had happend since we never saw our friends and kinsmen again. I know of death at this time because I was killed trying to prevent the abduction of my daughter Olos Nethra... The early life of the Quendi was quite similar to that of Native American tribes eating mostly fruits, nuts and such occasionally killing an animal but only when we needed food or clothes...keep in mind these were times before agriculture the hunter/gathering phase of the quendi if you will...Gratitude to Arda , to the animals, and to the One (in later elvish tongue Eru) was always expressed. herblore was quickly discovered ... I remember seeing Orome...I was filled with anger and fear because I thought him responsible for the disappearances of our kin.... From all this info I can say that I was one of the first awakened Quendi of the Tatyar kindred (later known as Noldor) I was killed by a huge mace like weapon as were several others who were with me (that memory was quite painful)..My daughter was taken... Those of us who were killed by the servants of melkor were dragged off (bodies dragged off that is)... Olos Nethra was captured and mutilated and tortured for a long while and ultimately the dark powers broke her . She was killed since then and reborn among the Noldor...it seems that they had not broken her completely...Well that is all until I find the rest of the papers. namarie
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Post by Laurasia on Oct 18, 2005 20:15:54 GMT -5
Hello Artanaro. Okay, thanks for clearing that up. My goodness! This is very interesting to read. So she remembers becoming an Orc? ~shudders~ I can only imagine. I understand why she would not want to talk about it. It's so odd to hear from someone who remembers middle-Earth from such an early Age. The Middle-Earth that I remember is completely different, though that stands to reason I suppose. My having been of the Race of Men & having lived so much later than what you are describing. Hi Brandybuck. I rarely have recollections when I sleep. At least not that I remember. Mine are almost always when I am awake, which makes them rather inconvenient at times. Like when I'm trying to go about my daily business & am suddenly overcome with a painful memory as though it were happening to me right then & there. Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by Lomelindo on Oct 18, 2005 20:48:59 GMT -5
Yes the memories are pretty different I agree...It was a dark time before the War of Powers, which led the Valar to the decision to take us to Valinor for our safety....But alas I never made it to Valinor..... I also remember several other things from Middle Earth: I remember being at The battle at dagorlad and dying by flame...I remember an elf with grey-silver hair near me before dying...I also remember fighting alongside Men shouting "Aure entuluva!" as a battle cry...I remember a dark haired elf with grey eyes who looked up to me carrying a banner.... well that is all for now.... Thanks for listening
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Post by Laurasia on Oct 18, 2005 21:30:27 GMT -5
Hi Artanaro. Thank you for listening?! Thank you for sharing sweetheart! LOL! I'm wanting to share so bad!!!! Argh!!! Okay, nothing too personal yet - I'm sorry guys I just can't yet. I lived in Gondor, obviously & fought for Gondor. This was all during the War of the Ring. In fact, I can remember when the Ring was destroyed. I remember the explosion & the wave of relief, uncertainty, & fear. We had no idea of whom, if any, had made it through the battle. All of our loved ones could have been dead & we had no choice but to wait for word. That waiting was torture. The thought of the deaths that our loved ones could have gone through were torture. I can't keep going right now guys. It's too personal right now. Perhaps later on I'll feel more comfortable talking about the details. Sincerely, Laurasia
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Post by Lomelindo on Oct 18, 2005 21:53:40 GMT -5
Its ok dont rush it....I am only sharing now 4 years later after I first remembered....It can be very very overwhelming and powerful....Many of the memories still bring either tears of sorrow and pain or joy to my eyes despite the time gap between then and now.. kind of leads me to question the saying "Time heals all wounds" I think its more like acceptance heals all wounds... Namarie
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Post by Laurasia on Oct 18, 2005 22:04:19 GMT -5
Hi Artanaro.
I definately think that I have to agree with that! I know how overwhelming they are believe me. I've been doing past-life research for years & have uncovered some real doosies. It's just...I don't know. Telling everyone exactly who I was...I'm only human & get anxious about being judged. ~sigh~
Sincerely, Laurasia
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